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>> No. 2845 Anonymous
29th January 2021
Friday 12:47 pm
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I'm interested in buying this but it says it must be fixed to the wall, no fittings included.

How dangerous would it be without being fixed to the wall?
How would I fix it the wall?

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>> No. 2846 Anonymous
29th January 2021
Friday 1:05 pm
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They'll almost certainly be fine free standing, particularly if you keep heavy stuff on the bottom shelf and lighter stuff on the top. They won't fall over of their own accord, just don't tip them.
>> No. 2847 Anonymous
29th January 2021
Friday 1:53 pm
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As long as you don't have kids. There was a few stories of non-free-standing Ikea chests of drawers that weren't fixed walls, and kids managing to topple them on to themselves, with undesirable outcomes.
>> No. 2848 Anonymous
29th January 2021
Friday 2:11 pm
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If it's flat pack and each one of those vertical bars just stacks on top of the one below, it'll be wobbly as all fuck without crossbeams or an anchor. It'll still stand up fine, just don't put anything heavy on the top, and make sure it's on a level bit of floor.

I had a similar thing at my old flat, it was meant to have diagonal slats too to keep the whole thing sturdy but I lost the screws somewhere in the moving process. It leaned precariously outward from the wall, and if you pulled a DVD or whatever off it the whole thing would sway for several seconds. It never actually fell over, but I can tell you I didn't fucking like it.
>> No. 2849 Anonymous
29th January 2021
Friday 5:25 pm
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These are the fixings that Ikea supply with things, there's always loads around and similar things on ebay.

Short side of the L goes into the wall with the wallplug, long side screws into the top of the shelf. You can leave a bit of slack in that screw so you have a bit of movement along that slot.

you can also secure it reasonable well with a screw in the wall and shelf and a bit of wire twisted round each. Remember it doesn't need to take any real weight, just stop it from tipping forwards.

>> No. 2850 Anonymous
29th January 2021
Friday 6:05 pm
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>> No. 2851 Anonymous
29th January 2021
Friday 6:05 pm
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Not OP. I bought one of these wall-mounted foldaway desks. Only now I've realised the wall I wanted to mount it to is plasterboard and it's far too heavy for that. It's currently sitting on the floor, waiting for me to, I dunno, buy it some legs I guess.
>> No. 2852 Anonymous
29th January 2021
Friday 6:30 pm
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Easy peasy. Buy a neodymium magnet and a non-contact voltage detector on eBay - total cost about six quid. Wrap it in a bit of old t-shirt and rub it around on the wall where you want the cabinet. When it sticks to something, mark that point. Move the magnet vertically until it sticks again, mark that point and trace a line between the two. Drill anywhere on that line and you'll be drilling through the plasterboard into a sturdy wooden joist.

Before you drill, hold the voltage detector against the wall to check that you won't be drilling into a mains cable.
>> No. 2853 Anonymous
29th January 2021
Friday 6:39 pm
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We already tried knocking, couldn't really tell where the joists were. Will magnets deffo work?
>> No. 2854 Anonymous
29th January 2021
Friday 6:42 pm
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I don't know what I'm talking about, but presumably the magnet is going to be detecting screws, so a vertical line between two screws would likely be a joist.
>> No. 2855 Anonymous
29th January 2021
Friday 6:49 pm
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As long as it's a reasonably strong magnet, yes. As >>2854 says, you're detecting the screws that fix the plasterboard to the joist. You can buy commercially-made joist finders that work on exactly the same principle, they're just a magnet in a plastic housing. It's slightly more challenging on old lath walls that are fixed with nails rather than screws, but it's still perfectly straightforward if you just take your time.
>> No. 2856 Anonymous
29th January 2021
Friday 7:31 pm
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What are the chances of it detecting gold coins? Also are there other things that could potentially attract it, or is it always (within reason) be a nail?

I remember reading a post on this a few weeks ago and I think there was another thing you could do when gauging where to bash through the wall, whereas from what you're saying, the magnet and draw method should cover it.
>> No. 2857 Anonymous
29th January 2021
Friday 8:07 pm
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This is the best and correct way.

There's also various fixings designed to spread weight across plasterboard, if you happen to not have studs exactly where you want the desk. I like Gripit brand. The concept seems terrifying, but they really can hold loads of weight. I have my big telly (that I bought with benefits) mounted entirely on plasterboard. But going into a stud is still 20 times better.
>> No. 2858 Anonymous
29th January 2021
Friday 8:28 pm
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>What are the chances of it detecting gold coins?

Zero, because gold isn't ferromagnetic. The same goes for copper pipe or wiring, which is handy. You want a metal detector if you're looking for coins.

>Also are there other things that could potentially attract it, or is it always (within reason) be a nail?

Possibly, but that's why you test for two fixings rather than one - regularly spaced bits of metal in a vertical line are pretty much guaranteed to be a joist.


Plasterboard fixings can be an excellent solution, but I'm not sure I'd recommend them to a novice. I haven't used the Gripit fixings, but they do look reasonably foolproof to be fair.
>> No. 2859 Anonymous
29th January 2021
Friday 8:54 pm
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>I haven't used the Gripit fixings, but they do look reasonably foolproof to be fair.

I would say they are, but I have loads of DIY experience so it's hard to really be sure. The stud is always, always a better option, particularly with a desk. The bigger Gripits (blue) can hold 120kgish per fixing, but I still wouldn't be sure what would happen if you sat on a desk held up by them, there's leverage then. Or shagged on it, I don't know what otherlad does.
>> No. 2860 Anonymous
31st January 2021
Sunday 12:17 am
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The desk weighs 19kg lads, I can barely lift it myself - I'm just not confident of the plasterboard wall taking the weight regardless of the fixing. I'll investigate finding the studs (joists?) with magnets.
>> No. 2861 Anonymous
31st January 2021
Sunday 12:50 am
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They definitely would hold, but I do understand your scepticism. The stud is always the first port of call, regardless.
>> No. 2862 Anonymous
31st January 2021
Sunday 1:52 am
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It must be fixed to a sturdy wall (not just screwed into dry wall without anchors) if you want it to be solid, but if can be sure no toddler will try to climb it and you follow above given advice about heavy at the bottom, light at the top you'll be ok. Pretend its Jenga and the damn thing wants to topple over, basically.

Also bear in mind that, when fixed to a wall, there'll be little flex in the structure. When that's absent, it can flex however it wants. Even if you keep your lead bar collection on the bottom shelf, you still can't use the top shelf to store heavy things because the structure is a bit flimsy.
>> No. 2863 Anonymous
31st January 2021
Sunday 1:31 pm
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This thread is making me wonder why you don't just buy a cheap flatpack. A steel and plastic combo would likely be more sturdy than what you're looking at, and can be found for a tenner (without delivery): https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/hyllis-shelving-unit-in-outdoor-00278578/

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